The Real Lupopedia Roulette WOLFIE Ladder

Roulette Wolfie Ladder version Z3800 - Last updated: October 12, 2026

59% win rate based on all 2,716 runs ( SEE results for more details )

Simulations today (UTC): 712

I have made about 22 different versions of the Wolfie Ladder and have them all competing to see which is the best version. See the results page to see which is doing the best. When you go to lupopedia.com/wolfie_ladder/ the current winner is shown.

Version Z3800 is version Z3500 with the goal raised to 3800. The starting bank is still 3000. It starts at stage 2, step 8, and a full reset returns to step 8. Stage 3 now runs through step 27. A loss on the $500 bet at step 27 ends the game. Counterintuitively, adding a 7th bet in stage 1 or stage 2 seemed to do worse in trials. Compounded probability increased about 3%, but the trials showed it did not work as well. When version Z3800 looses it usally feels like a crime because you have to loose 6+ times in row 6 different times while playing which feels like lady luck is mad at you.

There are 6 other versions of version N that use this same system, with goals of winning $100, $200, $300, $400, and $500. Winning $100 is Z2100, winning $200 is Z2200, winning $300 is Z2300, winning $400 is Z2400, winning $500 is Z2500,

People keep misunderstanding what I actually built, so here is the truth in plain English: I am not a gambler — I am a programmer. I did not sit there playing 10,000 roulette games like some guy with a lucky rabbit foot. I wrote a program that runs this ladder — stage 2 and stage 3, through step 27 — across 50 to 300 simultaneous games on a single page, and then I repeated that whole batch 10,000 times. That is how you get a real statistical picture. That is how you reach a ~90% win rate. Not vibes. Not superstition. Not “progressions” like Fibonacci that blow up the moment variance sneezes. The Wolfie Ladder is engineered to survive streaks, recover losses, and beat the distribution curve — and I tested it by running 10,000+ full sequences in under 30 minutes, not by hand playing one spin at a time. If people think I sat there clicking red/black like a zombie, they really do not understand who they are talking to. When i first made this system luck i guess was on my side because the first few hundred times i was playing it i was winning at a rate of 91% of the time but as i kept running it more and more times the win rate started to drop and now it is between ~83% and ~90% . And here’s the part people really don’t understand: the Wolfie Ladder wins even when the game‑level win rate is losing. For example — in one of the sequences, the system played 92 total games. Out of those:
38 wins
54 losses
Including a brutal streak where it lost every single bet from #52 through #67
That’s 16 consecutive losses in the middle of the run.
And despite that? Despite losing more games than it won? Despite eating a variance spike that would vaporize Fibonacci, Martingale, or any “pro gambler” strategy?
It still finished the sequence up +$100.
That’s the point. The Ladder doesn’t care about “win more than you lose.” It cares about sequence structure, distribution recovery, and controlled escalation. It’s engineered to survive streaks, absorb damage, and still exit the sequence profitable — even when the raw win/loss ratio looks terrible.
This is why the system works. This is why the win rate stabilizes around ~86.2%+ across 10,000 full trials. Not because it wins every spin — but because it wins the sequence.

update 10/06/2026: changed first bet to be single dozen bets instead of 2 dozen bets. the bank needed to reset adds 200 at the end of stage 2.

THE WOLFIE LADDER SYSTEM (Step-by-Step)

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STAGE 2:
8️⃣ Bet $10 on the first dozen. Win & bank > bank_needed_to_reset → Step 8. Win but bank ≤ bank_needed_to_reset → repeat Step 8. Lose → Step 9. ( net win at this step is $20 )
9️⃣ Bet $16 on the first dozen. Win & bank > bank_needed_to_reset → Step 8. Win but bank ≤ bank_needed_to_reset → Step 8. Lose → Step 10. ( net win at this step is $22 )
🔟 Bet $24 on the first dozen. Win & bank > bank_needed_to_reset → Step 8. Win but bank ≤ bank_needed_to_reset → Step 8. Lose → Step 11. ( net win at this step is $22 )
1️⃣1️⃣ Bet $36 on the first dozen. Win & bank > bank_needed_to_reset → Step 8. Win but bank ≤ bank_needed_to_reset → Step 8. Lose → Step 12. ( net win at this step is $22 )
1️⃣2️⃣ Bet $54 on the first dozen. Win & bank > bank_needed_to_reset → Step 8. Win but bank ≤ bank_needed_to_reset → Step 8. Lose → Step 13. ( net win at this step is $22 )
1️⃣3️⃣ Bet $81 on the first dozen. Win & bank > bank_needed_to_reset → Step 8. Win but bank ≤ bank_needed_to_reset → Step 8. Lose → set bank_needed_to_reset = current bank + 200, then Step 14. ( net win at this step is $22 )
1️⃣4️⃣ Bet $0 on the first dozen and wait for a hit. This is a sequence reset, not a progression bet. The next bets are a new sequence, and that sequence has to start over before it counts. Win → Step 15. A miss stays on Step 14.
STAGE 3:
1️⃣5️⃣ Bet $25 on the first dozen. Win & bank > bank_needed_to_reset → Step 8. Win but bank ≤ bank_needed_to_reset → repeat Step 15. Lose → Step 16. ( net win at this step is $50 )
1️⃣6️⃣ Bet $40 on the first dozen. Win & bank > bank_needed_to_reset → Step 8. Win but bank ≤ bank_needed_to_reset → Step 15. Lose → Step 17. ( net win at this step is $55 )
1️⃣7️⃣ Bet $60 on the first dozen. Win & bank > bank_needed_to_reset → Step 8. Win but bank ≤ bank_needed_to_reset → Step 15. Lose → Step 18. ( net win at this step is $55 )
1️⃣8️⃣ Bet $90 on the first dozen. Win & bank > bank_needed_to_reset → Step 8. Win but bank ≤ bank_needed_to_reset → Step 15. Lose → Step 19. ( net win at this step is $55 )
1️⃣9️⃣ Bet $130 on the first dozen. Win & bank > bank_needed_to_reset → Step 8. Win but bank ≤ bank_needed_to_reset → Step 15. Lose → Step 20. ( net win at this step is $45 )
2️⃣0️⃣ Bet $150 on the first dozen. Win & bank > bank_needed_to_reset → Step 8. Win but bank ≤ bank_needed_to_reset → Step 15. Lose → Step 21. ( net win at this step is -$45 )
2️⃣1️⃣ Bet $200 on the first dozen. Win & bank > bank_needed_to_reset → Step 8. Win but bank ≤ bank_needed_to_reset → Step 15. Lose → Step 22. ( net win at this step is -$95 )
2️⃣2️⃣ Bet $250 on the first dozen. Win & bank > bank_needed_to_reset → Step 8. Win but bank ≤ bank_needed_to_reset → Step 15. Lose → Step 23. ( net win at this step is -$195 )
2️⃣3️⃣ Bet $300 on the first dozen. Win & bank > bank_needed_to_reset → Step 8. Win but bank ≤ bank_needed_to_reset → Step 15. Lose → Step 24. ( net win at this step is -$345 )
2️⃣4️⃣ Bet $350 on the first dozen. Win & bank > bank_needed_to_reset → Step 8. Win but bank ≤ bank_needed_to_reset → Step 15. Lose → Step 25. ( net win at this step is -$545 )
2️⃣5️⃣ Bet $400 on the first dozen. Win & bank > bank_needed_to_reset → Step 8. Win but bank ≤ bank_needed_to_reset → Step 15. Lose → Step 26. ( net win at this step is -$795 )
2️⃣6️⃣ Bet $450 on the first dozen. Win & bank > bank_needed_to_reset → Step 8. Win but bank ≤ bank_needed_to_reset → Step 15. Lose → Step 27. ( net win at this step is -$1095 )
2️⃣7️⃣ Bet $500 on the first dozen. Win & bank > bank_needed_to_reset → Step 8. Win but bank ≤ bank_needed_to_reset → Step 15. Lose → game over. ( net win at this step is -$1445 )

Roulette wheel
This system was build using 80 diffent ai agents across 8 LLM models to test the best possible system for roulette using lupopedia AI platform.
The programmer captain wolfie (Eric) was too board playing just one game at a time so programmed this to play up to 1000 games all at once, that way can play thousands of times a minute and find the best stratagy that holds up . .
Want the full story? Check out the Patreon post for the complete dialog between Captain Wolfie, Grok, and the mischievous Lilith!

Probability Reality Check

This version starts at stage 2 and has no stage 4. Step 14 bets $0 and waits for the first dozen to hit. A miss stays on step 14. A hit starts stage 3. Stage 3 bets $25, $40, $60, $90, $130, $150, $200, $250, $300, $350, $400, $450, and $500. A win that has not recovered returns to step 15. A loss on the $500 bet at step 27 ends the game. A full reset returns to step 8. A dozen bet hits 12 of 38 numbers, about 31.58% of the time, and loses about 68.42% of the time. The six stage 2 bets before the wait fail about 10.26% of the time. Losing all 13 stage 3 bets in a row is about 0.72%. The house edge is still there. This is controlled exposure, not a guaranteed profit.

1000-Round Simulation (American Wheel Model)

MySQL connected to collab52_salessyntax on localhost. This run was saved to wolfie_ladder_runs.

Every time this page loads it simulates 1000 games using the WOLFIE Ladder exactly as defined here or stops if you win $800+ How did you do? If the run ended in the cliff, click here to try again and generate a fresh 1000-game sequence. Saved runs are listed on wolfie_ladder_results.php.

Final Bank

3,813.00

Net Units

+813.00

Wins / Losses

152 / 363

Max Step Reached

Run Status

Target Hit

Table Limit Hit

Bank Depleted

Below is one 1000-bet run. Each roll uses the real American wheel odds (12/38 for single dozen). Every time a win hits, we reset or loop based on rules.

#	Bet	Wheel	Result	Bank	Next Step	Mode
1	10 on first dozen	17	Loss	2,990.00	9	Step 8
2	16 on first dozen	20	Loss	2,974.00	10	Step 9
3	24 on first dozen	23	Loss	2,950.00	11	Step 10
4	36 on first dozen	20	Loss	2,914.00	12	Step 11
5	54 on first dozen	18	Loss	2,860.00	13	Step 12
6	81 on first dozen	4	Win	3,022.00	8	Step 13
7	10 on first dozen	29	Loss	3,012.00	9	Step 8
8	16 on first dozen	33	Loss	2,996.00	10	Step 9
9	24 on first dozen	35	Loss	2,972.00	11	Step 10
10	36 on first dozen	30	Loss	2,936.00	12	Step 11
11	54 on first dozen	10	Win	3,044.00	8	Step 12
12	10 on first dozen	21	Loss	3,034.00	9	Step 8
13	16 on first dozen	16	Loss	3,018.00	10	Step 9
14	24 on first dozen	27	Loss	2,994.00	11	Step 10
15	36 on first dozen	7	Win	3,066.00	8	Step 11
16	10 on first dozen	34	Loss	3,056.00	9	Step 8
17	16 on first dozen	18	Loss	3,040.00	10	Step 9
18	24 on first dozen	7	Win	3,088.00	8	Step 10
19	10 on first dozen	17	Loss	3,078.00	9	Step 8
20	16 on first dozen	11	Win	3,110.00	8	Step 9
21	10 on first dozen	26	Loss	3,100.00	9	Step 8
22	16 on first dozen	33	Loss	3,084.00	10	Step 9
23	24 on first dozen	17	Loss	3,060.00	11	Step 10
24	36 on first dozen	17	Loss	3,024.00	12	Step 11
25	54 on first dozen	32	Loss	2,970.00	13	Step 12
26	81 on first dozen	17	Loss	2,889.00	14	Step 13
27	0 on first dozen	11	Win	2,889.00	15	Step 14
28	25 on first dozen	1	Win	2,939.00	15	Step 15
29	25 on first dozen	15	Loss	2,914.00	16	Step 15
30	40 on first dozen	2	Win	2,994.00	15	Step 16
31	25 on first dozen	15	Loss	2,969.00	16	Step 15
32	40 on first dozen	25	Loss	2,929.00	17	Step 16
33	60 on first dozen	6	Win	3,049.00	15	Step 17
34	25 on first dozen	29	Loss	3,024.00	16	Step 15
35	40 on first dozen	28	Loss	2,984.00	17	Step 16
36	60 on first dozen	5	Win	3,104.00	8	Step 17
37	10 on first dozen	32	Loss	3,094.00	9	Step 8
38	16 on first dozen	28	Loss	3,078.00	10	Step 9
39	24 on first dozen	17	Loss	3,054.00	11	Step 10
40	36 on first dozen	9	Win	3,126.00	8	Step 11
41	10 on first dozen	35	Loss	3,116.00	9	Step 8
42	16 on first dozen	26	Loss	3,100.00	10	Step 9
43	24 on first dozen	26	Loss	3,076.00	11	Step 10
44	36 on first dozen	23	Loss	3,040.00	12	Step 11
45	54 on first dozen	35	Loss	2,986.00	13	Step 12
46	81 on first dozen	13	Loss	2,905.00	14	Step 13
47	0 on first dozen	30	Loss	2,905.00	14	Step 14
48	0 on first dozen	2	Win	2,905.00	15	Step 14
49	25 on first dozen	22	Loss	2,880.00	16	Step 15
50	40 on first dozen	33	Loss	2,840.00	17	Step 16
51	60 on first dozen	34	Loss	2,780.00	18	Step 17
52	90 on first dozen	19	Loss	2,690.00	19	Step 18
53	130 on first dozen	26	Loss	2,560.00	20	Step 19
54	150 on first dozen	5	Win	2,860.00	15	Step 20
55	25 on first dozen	29	Loss	2,835.00	16	Step 15
56	40 on first dozen	14	Loss	2,795.00	17	Step 16
57	60 on first dozen	33	Loss	2,735.00	18	Step 17
58	90 on first dozen	23	Loss	2,645.00	19	Step 18
59	130 on first dozen	29	Loss	2,515.00	20	Step 19
60	150 on first dozen	18	Loss	2,365.00	21	Step 20
61	200 on first dozen	36	Loss	2,165.00	22	Step 21
62	250 on first dozen	22	Loss	1,915.00	23	Step 22
63	300 on first dozen	3	Win	2,515.00	15	Step 23
64	25 on first dozen	6	Win	2,565.00	15	Step 15
65	25 on first dozen	15	Loss	2,540.00	16	Step 15
66	40 on first dozen	2	Win	2,620.00	15	Step 16
67	25 on first dozen	26	Loss	2,595.00	16	Step 15
68	40 on first dozen	3	Win	2,675.00	15	Step 16
69	25 on first dozen	29	Loss	2,650.00	16	Step 15
70	40 on first dozen	35	Loss	2,610.00	17	Step 16
71	60 on first dozen	22	Loss	2,550.00	18	Step 17
72	90 on first dozen	8	Win	2,730.00	15	Step 18
73	25 on first dozen	8	Win	2,780.00	15	Step 15
74	25 on first dozen	33	Loss	2,755.00	16	Step 15
75	40 on first dozen	0	Loss	2,715.00	17	Step 16
76	60 on first dozen	0	Loss	2,655.00	18	Step 17
77	90 on first dozen	00	Loss	2,565.00	19	Step 18
78	130 on first dozen	11	Win	2,825.00	15	Step 19
79	25 on first dozen	24	Loss	2,800.00	16	Step 15
80	40 on first dozen	1	Win	2,880.00	15	Step 16
81	25 on first dozen	20	Loss	2,855.00	16	Step 15
82	40 on first dozen	35	Loss	2,815.00	17	Step 16
83	60 on first dozen	13	Loss	2,755.00	18	Step 17
84	90 on first dozen	10	Win	2,935.00	15	Step 18
85	25 on first dozen	13	Loss	2,910.00	16	Step 15
86	40 on first dozen	34	Loss	2,870.00	17	Step 16
87	60 on first dozen	17	Loss	2,810.00	18	Step 17
88	90 on first dozen	13	Loss	2,720.00	19	Step 18
89	130 on first dozen	3	Win	2,980.00	15	Step 19
90	25 on first dozen	28	Loss	2,955.00	16	Step 15
91	40 on first dozen	9	Win	3,035.00	15	Step 16
92	25 on first dozen	7	Win	3,085.00	15	Step 15
93	25 on first dozen	16	Loss	3,060.00	16	Step 15
94	40 on first dozen	22	Loss	3,020.00	17	Step 16
95	60 on first dozen	34	Loss	2,960.00	18	Step 17
96	90 on first dozen	0	Loss	2,870.00	19	Step 18
97	130 on first dozen	34	Loss	2,740.00	20	Step 19
98	150 on first dozen	15	Loss	2,590.00	21	Step 20
99	200 on first dozen	27	Loss	2,390.00	22	Step 21
100	250 on first dozen	36	Loss	2,140.00	23	Step 22
101	300 on first dozen	17	Loss	1,840.00	24	Step 23
102	350 on first dozen	33	Loss	1,490.00	25	Step 24
103	400 on first dozen	4	Win	2,290.00	15	Step 25
104	25 on first dozen	19	Loss	2,265.00	16	Step 15
105	40 on first dozen	19	Loss	2,225.00	17	Step 16
106	60 on first dozen	3	Win	2,345.00	15	Step 17
107	25 on first dozen	29	Loss	2,320.00	16	Step 15
108	40 on first dozen	8	Win	2,400.00	15	Step 16
109	25 on first dozen	28	Loss	2,375.00	16	Step 15
110	40 on first dozen	12	Win	2,455.00	15	Step 16
111	25 on first dozen	18	Loss	2,430.00	16	Step 15
112	40 on first dozen	3	Win	2,510.00	15	Step 16
113	25 on first dozen	29	Loss	2,485.00	16	Step 15
114	40 on first dozen	7	Win	2,565.00	15	Step 16
115	25 on first dozen	19	Loss	2,540.00	16	Step 15
116	40 on first dozen	2	Win	2,620.00	15	Step 16
117	25 on first dozen	19	Loss	2,595.00	16	Step 15
118	40 on first dozen	22	Loss	2,555.00	17	Step 16
119	60 on first dozen	33	Loss	2,495.00	18	Step 17
120	90 on first dozen	23	Loss	2,405.00	19	Step 18
121	130 on first dozen	5	Win	2,665.00	15	Step 19
122	25 on first dozen	35	Loss	2,640.00	16	Step 15
123	40 on first dozen	31	Loss	2,600.00	17	Step 16
124	60 on first dozen	35	Loss	2,540.00	18	Step 17
125	90 on first dozen	26	Loss	2,450.00	19	Step 18
126	130 on first dozen	22	Loss	2,320.00	20	Step 19
127	150 on first dozen	15	Loss	2,170.00	21	Step 20
128	200 on first dozen	18	Loss	1,970.00	22	Step 21
129	250 on first dozen	13	Loss	1,720.00	23	Step 22
130	300 on first dozen	10	Win	2,320.00	15	Step 23
131	25 on first dozen	9	Win	2,370.00	15	Step 15
132	25 on first dozen	18	Loss	2,345.00	16	Step 15
133	40 on first dozen	12	Win	2,425.00	15	Step 16
134	25 on first dozen	16	Loss	2,400.00	16	Step 15
135	40 on first dozen	7	Win	2,480.00	15	Step 16
136	25 on first dozen	34	Loss	2,455.00	16	Step 15
137	40 on first dozen	6	Win	2,535.00	15	Step 16
138	25 on first dozen	34	Loss	2,510.00	16	Step 15
139	40 on first dozen	28	Loss	2,470.00	17	Step 16
140	60 on first dozen	26	Loss	2,410.00	18	Step 17
141	90 on first dozen	21	Loss	2,320.00	19	Step 18
142	130 on first dozen	26	Loss	2,190.00	20	Step 19
143	150 on first dozen	10	Win	2,490.00	15	Step 20
144	25 on first dozen	24	Loss	2,465.00	16	Step 15
145	40 on first dozen	11	Win	2,545.00	15	Step 16
146	25 on first dozen	32	Loss	2,520.00	16	Step 15
147	40 on first dozen	1	Win	2,600.00	15	Step 16
148	25 on first dozen	24	Loss	2,575.00	16	Step 15
149	40 on first dozen	31	Loss	2,535.00	17	Step 16
150	60 on first dozen	0	Loss	2,475.00	18	Step 17
151	90 on first dozen	10	Win	2,655.00	15	Step 18
152	25 on first dozen	00	Loss	2,630.00	16	Step 15
153	40 on first dozen	30	Loss	2,590.00	17	Step 16
154	60 on first dozen	1	Win	2,710.00	15	Step 17
155	25 on first dozen	30	Loss	2,685.00	16	Step 15
156	40 on first dozen	11	Win	2,765.00	15	Step 16
157	25 on first dozen	18	Loss	2,740.00	16	Step 15
158	40 on first dozen	12	Win	2,820.00	15	Step 16
159	25 on first dozen	00	Loss	2,795.00	16	Step 15
160	40 on first dozen	7	Win	2,875.00	15	Step 16
161	25 on first dozen	5	Win	2,925.00	15	Step 15
162	25 on first dozen	10	Win	2,975.00	15	Step 15
163	25 on first dozen	29	Loss	2,950.00	16	Step 15
164	40 on first dozen	15	Loss	2,910.00	17	Step 16
165	60 on first dozen	9	Win	3,030.00	15	Step 17
166	25 on first dozen	00	Loss	3,005.00	16	Step 15
167	40 on first dozen	25	Loss	2,965.00	17	Step 16
168	60 on first dozen	10	Win	3,085.00	15	Step 17
169	25 on first dozen	2	Win	3,135.00	8	Step 15
170	10 on first dozen	16	Loss	3,125.00	9	Step 8
171	16 on first dozen	00	Loss	3,109.00	10	Step 9
172	24 on first dozen	19	Loss	3,085.00	11	Step 10
173	36 on first dozen	8	Win	3,157.00	8	Step 11
174	10 on first dozen	0	Loss	3,147.00	9	Step 8
175	16 on first dozen	4	Win	3,179.00	8	Step 9
176	10 on first dozen	24	Loss	3,169.00	9	Step 8
177	16 on first dozen	15	Loss	3,153.00	10	Step 9
178	24 on first dozen	5	Win	3,201.00	8	Step 10
179	10 on first dozen	7	Win	3,221.00	8	Step 8
180	10 on first dozen	32	Loss	3,211.00	9	Step 8
181	16 on first dozen	32	Loss	3,195.00	10	Step 9
182	24 on first dozen	32	Loss	3,171.00	11	Step 10
183	36 on first dozen	32	Loss	3,135.00	12	Step 11
184	54 on first dozen	29	Loss	3,081.00	13	Step 12
185	81 on first dozen	13	Loss	3,000.00	14	Step 13
186	0 on first dozen	28	Loss	3,000.00	14	Step 14
187	0 on first dozen	7	Win	3,000.00	15	Step 14
188	25 on first dozen	29	Loss	2,975.00	16	Step 15
189	40 on first dozen	3	Win	3,055.00	15	Step 16
190	25 on first dozen	27	Loss	3,030.00	16	Step 15
191	40 on first dozen	2	Win	3,110.00	15	Step 16
192	25 on first dozen	14	Loss	3,085.00	16	Step 15
193	40 on first dozen	18	Loss	3,045.00	17	Step 16
194	60 on first dozen	16	Loss	2,985.00	18	Step 17
195	90 on first dozen	15	Loss	2,895.00	19	Step 18
196	130 on first dozen	23	Loss	2,765.00	20	Step 19
197	150 on first dozen	26	Loss	2,615.00	21	Step 20
198	200 on first dozen	26	Loss	2,415.00	22	Step 21
199	250 on first dozen	1	Win	2,915.00	15	Step 22
200	25 on first dozen	14	Loss	2,890.00	16	Step 15
201	40 on first dozen	21	Loss	2,850.00	17	Step 16
202	60 on first dozen	30	Loss	2,790.00	18	Step 17
203	90 on first dozen	00	Loss	2,700.00	19	Step 18
204	130 on first dozen	7	Win	2,960.00	15	Step 19
205	25 on first dozen	27	Loss	2,935.00	16	Step 15
206	40 on first dozen	14	Loss	2,895.00	17	Step 16
207	60 on first dozen	31	Loss	2,835.00	18	Step 17
208	90 on first dozen	14	Loss	2,745.00	19	Step 18
209	130 on first dozen	8	Win	3,005.00	15	Step 19
210	25 on first dozen	32	Loss	2,980.00	16	Step 15
211	40 on first dozen	8	Win	3,060.00	15	Step 16
212	25 on first dozen	25	Loss	3,035.00	16	Step 15
213	40 on first dozen	1	Win	3,115.00	15	Step 16
214	25 on first dozen	13	Loss	3,090.00	16	Step 15
215	40 on first dozen	21	Loss	3,050.00	17	Step 16
216	60 on first dozen	31	Loss	2,990.00	18	Step 17
217	90 on first dozen	11	Win	3,170.00	15	Step 18
218	25 on first dozen	9	Win	3,220.00	8	Step 15
219	10 on first dozen	14	Loss	3,210.00	9	Step 8
220	16 on first dozen	2	Win	3,242.00	8	Step 9
221	10 on first dozen	29	Loss	3,232.00	9	Step 8
222	16 on first dozen	19	Loss	3,216.00	10	Step 9
223	24 on first dozen	23	Loss	3,192.00	11	Step 10
224	36 on first dozen	25	Loss	3,156.00	12	Step 11
225	54 on first dozen	23	Loss	3,102.00	13	Step 12
226	81 on first dozen	21	Loss	3,021.00	14	Step 13
227	0 on first dozen	13	Loss	3,021.00	14	Step 14
228	0 on first dozen	28	Loss	3,021.00	14	Step 14
229	0 on first dozen	26	Loss	3,021.00	14	Step 14
230	0 on first dozen	8	Win	3,021.00	15	Step 14
231	25 on first dozen	3	Win	3,071.00	15	Step 15
232	25 on first dozen	21	Loss	3,046.00	16	Step 15
233	40 on first dozen	8	Win	3,126.00	15	Step 16
234	25 on first dozen	17	Loss	3,101.00	16	Step 15
235	40 on first dozen	00	Loss	3,061.00	17	Step 16
236	60 on first dozen	19	Loss	3,001.00	18	Step 17
237	90 on first dozen	18	Loss	2,911.00	19	Step 18
238	130 on first dozen	1	Win	3,171.00	15	Step 19
239	25 on first dozen	28	Loss	3,146.00	16	Step 15
240	40 on first dozen	3	Win	3,226.00	8	Step 16
241	10 on first dozen	36	Loss	3,216.00	9	Step 8
242	16 on first dozen	7	Win	3,248.00	8	Step 9
243	10 on first dozen	23	Loss	3,238.00	9	Step 8
244	16 on first dozen	00	Loss	3,222.00	10	Step 9
245	24 on first dozen	1	Win	3,270.00	8	Step 10
246	10 on first dozen	26	Loss	3,260.00	9	Step 8
247	16 on first dozen	23	Loss	3,244.00	10	Step 9
248	24 on first dozen	17	Loss	3,220.00	11	Step 10
249	36 on first dozen	13	Loss	3,184.00	12	Step 11
250	54 on first dozen	21	Loss	3,130.00	13	Step 12
251	81 on first dozen	29	Loss	3,049.00	14	Step 13
252	0 on first dozen	11	Win	3,049.00	15	Step 14
253	25 on first dozen	11	Win	3,099.00	15	Step 15
254	25 on first dozen	25	Loss	3,074.00	16	Step 15
255	40 on first dozen	17	Loss	3,034.00	17	Step 16
256	60 on first dozen	30	Loss	2,974.00	18	Step 17
257	90 on first dozen	11	Win	3,154.00	15	Step 18
258	25 on first dozen	25	Loss	3,129.00	16	Step 15
259	40 on first dozen	30	Loss	3,089.00	17	Step 16
260	60 on first dozen	26	Loss	3,029.00	18	Step 17
261	90 on first dozen	15	Loss	2,939.00	19	Step 18
262	130 on first dozen	14	Loss	2,809.00	20	Step 19
263	150 on first dozen	3	Win	3,109.00	15	Step 20
264	25 on first dozen	22	Loss	3,084.00	16	Step 15
265	40 on first dozen	29	Loss	3,044.00	17	Step 16
266	60 on first dozen	7	Win	3,164.00	15	Step 17
267	25 on first dozen	34	Loss	3,139.00	16	Step 15
268	40 on first dozen	7	Win	3,219.00	15	Step 16
269	25 on first dozen	11	Win	3,269.00	8	Step 15
270	10 on first dozen	8	Win	3,289.00	8	Step 8
271	10 on first dozen	26	Loss	3,279.00	9	Step 8
272	16 on first dozen	28	Loss	3,263.00	10	Step 9
273	24 on first dozen	32	Loss	3,239.00	11	Step 10
274	36 on first dozen	2	Win	3,311.00	8	Step 11
275	10 on first dozen	10	Win	3,331.00	8	Step 8
276	10 on first dozen	27	Loss	3,321.00	9	Step 8
277	16 on first dozen	25	Loss	3,305.00	10	Step 9
278	24 on first dozen	2	Win	3,353.00	8	Step 10
279	10 on first dozen	28	Loss	3,343.00	9	Step 8
280	16 on first dozen	8	Win	3,375.00	8	Step 9
281	10 on first dozen	31	Loss	3,365.00	9	Step 8
282	16 on first dozen	11	Win	3,397.00	8	Step 9
283	10 on first dozen	14	Loss	3,387.00	9	Step 8
284	16 on first dozen	32	Loss	3,371.00	10	Step 9
285	24 on first dozen	14	Loss	3,347.00	11	Step 10
286	36 on first dozen	21	Loss	3,311.00	12	Step 11
287	54 on first dozen	11	Win	3,419.00	8	Step 12
288	10 on first dozen	16	Loss	3,409.00	9	Step 8
289	16 on first dozen	22	Loss	3,393.00	10	Step 9
290	24 on first dozen	30	Loss	3,369.00	11	Step 10
291	36 on first dozen	34	Loss	3,333.00	12	Step 11
292	54 on first dozen	1	Win	3,441.00	8	Step 12
293	10 on first dozen	20	Loss	3,431.00	9	Step 8
294	16 on first dozen	7	Win	3,463.00	8	Step 9
295	10 on first dozen	31	Loss	3,453.00	9	Step 8
296	16 on first dozen	24	Loss	3,437.00	10	Step 9
297	24 on first dozen	4	Win	3,485.00	8	Step 10
298	10 on first dozen	6	Win	3,505.00	8	Step 8
299	10 on first dozen	2	Win	3,525.00	8	Step 8
300	10 on first dozen	26	Loss	3,515.00	9	Step 8
301	16 on first dozen	11	Win	3,547.00	8	Step 9
302	10 on first dozen	24	Loss	3,537.00	9	Step 8
303	16 on first dozen	30	Loss	3,521.00	10	Step 9
304	24 on first dozen	9	Win	3,569.00	8	Step 10
305	10 on first dozen	16	Loss	3,559.00	9	Step 8
306	16 on first dozen	00	Loss	3,543.00	10	Step 9
307	24 on first dozen	11	Win	3,591.00	8	Step 10
308	10 on first dozen	00	Loss	3,581.00	9	Step 8
309	16 on first dozen	34	Loss	3,565.00	10	Step 9
310	24 on first dozen	17	Loss	3,541.00	11	Step 10
311	36 on first dozen	15	Loss	3,505.00	12	Step 11
312	54 on first dozen	9	Win	3,613.00	8	Step 12
313	10 on first dozen	28	Loss	3,603.00	9	Step 8
314	16 on first dozen	33	Loss	3,587.00	10	Step 9
315	24 on first dozen	25	Loss	3,563.00	11	Step 10
316	36 on first dozen	16	Loss	3,527.00	12	Step 11
317	54 on first dozen	7	Win	3,635.00	8	Step 12
318	10 on first dozen	33	Loss	3,625.00	9	Step 8
319	16 on first dozen	00	Loss	3,609.00	10	Step 9
320	24 on first dozen	17	Loss	3,585.00	11	Step 10
321	36 on first dozen	17	Loss	3,549.00	12	Step 11
322	54 on first dozen	26	Loss	3,495.00	13	Step 12
323	81 on first dozen	2	Win	3,657.00	8	Step 13
324	10 on first dozen	24	Loss	3,647.00	9	Step 8
325	16 on first dozen	12	Win	3,679.00	8	Step 9
326	10 on first dozen	11	Win	3,699.00	8	Step 8
327	10 on first dozen	32	Loss	3,689.00	9	Step 8
328	16 on first dozen	0	Loss	3,673.00	10	Step 9
329	24 on first dozen	35	Loss	3,649.00	11	Step 10
330	36 on first dozen	18	Loss	3,613.00	12	Step 11
331	54 on first dozen	24	Loss	3,559.00	13	Step 12
332	81 on first dozen	2	Win	3,721.00	8	Step 13
333	10 on first dozen	23	Loss	3,711.00	9	Step 8
334	16 on first dozen	11	Win	3,743.00	8	Step 9
335	10 on first dozen	22	Loss	3,733.00	9	Step 8
336	16 on first dozen	16	Loss	3,717.00	10	Step 9
337	24 on first dozen	24	Loss	3,693.00	11	Step 10
338	36 on first dozen	10	Win	3,765.00	8	Step 11
339	10 on first dozen	0	Loss	3,755.00	9	Step 8
340	16 on first dozen	13	Loss	3,739.00	10	Step 9
341	24 on first dozen	18	Loss	3,715.00	11	Step 10
342	36 on first dozen	16	Loss	3,679.00	12	Step 11
343	54 on first dozen	00	Loss	3,625.00	13	Step 12
344	81 on first dozen	17	Loss	3,544.00	14	Step 13
345	0 on first dozen	21	Loss	3,544.00	14	Step 14
346	0 on first dozen	18	Loss	3,544.00	14	Step 14
347	0 on first dozen	0	Loss	3,544.00	14	Step 14
348	0 on first dozen	12	Win	3,544.00	15	Step 14
349	25 on first dozen	24	Loss	3,519.00	16	Step 15
350	40 on first dozen	31	Loss	3,479.00	17	Step 16
351	60 on first dozen	14	Loss	3,419.00	18	Step 17
352	90 on first dozen	30	Loss	3,329.00	19	Step 18
353	130 on first dozen	13	Loss	3,199.00	20	Step 19
354	150 on first dozen	6	Win	3,499.00	15	Step 20
355	25 on first dozen	24	Loss	3,474.00	16	Step 15
356	40 on first dozen	6	Win	3,554.00	15	Step 16
357	25 on first dozen	34	Loss	3,529.00	16	Step 15
358	40 on first dozen	19	Loss	3,489.00	17	Step 16
359	60 on first dozen	18	Loss	3,429.00	18	Step 17
360	90 on first dozen	19	Loss	3,339.00	19	Step 18
361	130 on first dozen	14	Loss	3,209.00	20	Step 19
362	150 on first dozen	34	Loss	3,059.00	21	Step 20
363	200 on first dozen	24	Loss	2,859.00	22	Step 21
364	250 on first dozen	12	Win	3,359.00	15	Step 22
365	25 on first dozen	33	Loss	3,334.00	16	Step 15
366	40 on first dozen	28	Loss	3,294.00	17	Step 16
367	60 on first dozen	8	Win	3,414.00	15	Step 17
368	25 on first dozen	18	Loss	3,389.00	16	Step 15
369	40 on first dozen	18	Loss	3,349.00	17	Step 16
370	60 on first dozen	0	Loss	3,289.00	18	Step 17
371	90 on first dozen	13	Loss	3,199.00	19	Step 18
372	130 on first dozen	5	Win	3,459.00	15	Step 19
373	25 on first dozen	28	Loss	3,434.00	16	Step 15
374	40 on first dozen	22	Loss	3,394.00	17	Step 16
375	60 on first dozen	24	Loss	3,334.00	18	Step 17
376	90 on first dozen	9	Win	3,514.00	15	Step 18
377	25 on first dozen	17	Loss	3,489.00	16	Step 15
378	40 on first dozen	4	Win	3,569.00	15	Step 16
379	25 on first dozen	32	Loss	3,544.00	16	Step 15
380	40 on first dozen	29	Loss	3,504.00	17	Step 16
381	60 on first dozen	26	Loss	3,444.00	18	Step 17
382	90 on first dozen	11	Win	3,624.00	15	Step 18
383	25 on first dozen	34	Loss	3,599.00	16	Step 15
384	40 on first dozen	16	Loss	3,559.00	17	Step 16
385	60 on first dozen	32	Loss	3,499.00	18	Step 17
386	90 on first dozen	0	Loss	3,409.00	19	Step 18
387	130 on first dozen	14	Loss	3,279.00	20	Step 19
388	150 on first dozen	2	Win	3,579.00	15	Step 20
389	25 on first dozen	32	Loss	3,554.00	16	Step 15
390	40 on first dozen	14	Loss	3,514.00	17	Step 16
391	60 on first dozen	33	Loss	3,454.00	18	Step 17
392	90 on first dozen	32	Loss	3,364.00	19	Step 18
393	130 on first dozen	23	Loss	3,234.00	20	Step 19
394	150 on first dozen	30	Loss	3,084.00	21	Step 20
395	200 on first dozen	15	Loss	2,884.00	22	Step 21
396	250 on first dozen	8	Win	3,384.00	15	Step 22
397	25 on first dozen	36	Loss	3,359.00	16	Step 15
398	40 on first dozen	16	Loss	3,319.00	17	Step 16
399	60 on first dozen	27	Loss	3,259.00	18	Step 17
400	90 on first dozen	20	Loss	3,169.00	19	Step 18
401	130 on first dozen	12	Win	3,429.00	15	Step 19
402	25 on first dozen	35	Loss	3,404.00	16	Step 15
403	40 on first dozen	6	Win	3,484.00	15	Step 16
404	25 on first dozen	35	Loss	3,459.00	16	Step 15
405	40 on first dozen	29	Loss	3,419.00	17	Step 16
406	60 on first dozen	8	Win	3,539.00	15	Step 17
407	25 on first dozen	9	Win	3,589.00	15	Step 15
408	25 on first dozen	19	Loss	3,564.00	16	Step 15
409	40 on first dozen	24	Loss	3,524.00	17	Step 16
410	60 on first dozen	4	Win	3,644.00	15	Step 17
411	25 on first dozen	18	Loss	3,619.00	16	Step 15
412	40 on first dozen	24	Loss	3,579.00	17	Step 16
413	60 on first dozen	28	Loss	3,519.00	18	Step 17
414	90 on first dozen	29	Loss	3,429.00	19	Step 18
415	130 on first dozen	0	Loss	3,299.00	20	Step 19
416	150 on first dozen	29	Loss	3,149.00	21	Step 20
417	200 on first dozen	00	Loss	2,949.00	22	Step 21
418	250 on first dozen	36	Loss	2,699.00	23	Step 22
419	300 on first dozen	34	Loss	2,399.00	24	Step 23
420	350 on first dozen	2	Win	3,099.00	15	Step 24
421	25 on first dozen	8	Win	3,149.00	15	Step 15
422	25 on first dozen	9	Win	3,199.00	15	Step 15
423	25 on first dozen	12	Win	3,249.00	15	Step 15
424	25 on first dozen	34	Loss	3,224.00	16	Step 15
425	40 on first dozen	7	Win	3,304.00	15	Step 16
426	25 on first dozen	27	Loss	3,279.00	16	Step 15
427	40 on first dozen	18	Loss	3,239.00	17	Step 16
428	60 on first dozen	27	Loss	3,179.00	18	Step 17
429	90 on first dozen	23	Loss	3,089.00	19	Step 18
430	130 on first dozen	10	Win	3,349.00	15	Step 19
431	25 on first dozen	8	Win	3,399.00	15	Step 15
432	25 on first dozen	9	Win	3,449.00	15	Step 15
433	25 on first dozen	0	Loss	3,424.00	16	Step 15
434	40 on first dozen	33	Loss	3,384.00	17	Step 16
435	60 on first dozen	13	Loss	3,324.00	18	Step 17
436	90 on first dozen	29	Loss	3,234.00	19	Step 18
437	130 on first dozen	00	Loss	3,104.00	20	Step 19
438	150 on first dozen	34	Loss	2,954.00	21	Step 20
439	200 on first dozen	32	Loss	2,754.00	22	Step 21
440	250 on first dozen	4	Win	3,254.00	15	Step 22
441	25 on first dozen	29	Loss	3,229.00	16	Step 15
442	40 on first dozen	10	Win	3,309.00	15	Step 16
443	25 on first dozen	29	Loss	3,284.00	16	Step 15
444	40 on first dozen	8	Win	3,364.00	15	Step 16
445	25 on first dozen	17	Loss	3,339.00	16	Step 15
446	40 on first dozen	11	Win	3,419.00	15	Step 16
447	25 on first dozen	00	Loss	3,394.00	16	Step 15
448	40 on first dozen	23	Loss	3,354.00	17	Step 16
449	60 on first dozen	10	Win	3,474.00	15	Step 17
450	25 on first dozen	6	Win	3,524.00	15	Step 15
451	25 on first dozen	9	Win	3,574.00	15	Step 15
452	25 on first dozen	14	Loss	3,549.00	16	Step 15
453	40 on first dozen	14	Loss	3,509.00	17	Step 16
454	60 on first dozen	1	Win	3,629.00	15	Step 17
455	25 on first dozen	35	Loss	3,604.00	16	Step 15
456	40 on first dozen	13	Loss	3,564.00	17	Step 16
457	60 on first dozen	11	Win	3,684.00	15	Step 17
458	25 on first dozen	31	Loss	3,659.00	16	Step 15
459	40 on first dozen	17	Loss	3,619.00	17	Step 16
460	60 on first dozen	14	Loss	3,559.00	18	Step 17
461	90 on first dozen	14	Loss	3,469.00	19	Step 18
462	130 on first dozen	17	Loss	3,339.00	20	Step 19
463	150 on first dozen	1	Win	3,639.00	15	Step 20
464	25 on first dozen	32	Loss	3,614.00	16	Step 15
465	40 on first dozen	25	Loss	3,574.00	17	Step 16
466	60 on first dozen	28	Loss	3,514.00	18	Step 17
467	90 on first dozen	22	Loss	3,424.00	19	Step 18
468	130 on first dozen	12	Win	3,684.00	15	Step 19
469	25 on first dozen	33	Loss	3,659.00	16	Step 15
470	40 on first dozen	25	Loss	3,619.00	17	Step 16
471	60 on first dozen	24	Loss	3,559.00	18	Step 17
472	90 on first dozen	22	Loss	3,469.00	19	Step 18
473	130 on first dozen	24	Loss	3,339.00	20	Step 19
474	150 on first dozen	27	Loss	3,189.00	21	Step 20
475	200 on first dozen	3	Win	3,589.00	15	Step 21
476	25 on first dozen	10	Win	3,639.00	15	Step 15
477	25 on first dozen	36	Loss	3,614.00	16	Step 15
478	40 on first dozen	18	Loss	3,574.00	17	Step 16
479	60 on first dozen	6	Win	3,694.00	15	Step 17
480	25 on first dozen	25	Loss	3,669.00	16	Step 15
481	40 on first dozen	27	Loss	3,629.00	17	Step 16
482	60 on first dozen	11	Win	3,749.00	8	Step 17
483	10 on first dozen	30	Loss	3,739.00	9	Step 8
484	16 on first dozen	22	Loss	3,723.00	10	Step 9
485	24 on first dozen	33	Loss	3,699.00	11	Step 10
486	36 on first dozen	30	Loss	3,663.00	12	Step 11
487	54 on first dozen	00	Loss	3,609.00	13	Step 12
488	81 on first dozen	15	Loss	3,528.00	14	Step 13
489	0 on first dozen	23	Loss	3,528.00	14	Step 14
490	0 on first dozen	25	Loss	3,528.00	14	Step 14
491	0 on first dozen	35	Loss	3,528.00	14	Step 14
492	0 on first dozen	15	Loss	3,528.00	14	Step 14
493	0 on first dozen	29	Loss	3,528.00	14	Step 14
494	0 on first dozen	5	Win	3,528.00	15	Step 14
495	25 on first dozen	20	Loss	3,503.00	16	Step 15
496	40 on first dozen	2	Win	3,583.00	15	Step 16
497	25 on first dozen	24	Loss	3,558.00	16	Step 15
498	40 on first dozen	34	Loss	3,518.00	17	Step 16
499	60 on first dozen	35	Loss	3,458.00	18	Step 17
500	90 on first dozen	35	Loss	3,368.00	19	Step 18
501	130 on first dozen	29	Loss	3,238.00	20	Step 19
502	150 on first dozen	5	Win	3,538.00	15	Step 20
503	25 on first dozen	14	Loss	3,513.00	16	Step 15
504	40 on first dozen	15	Loss	3,473.00	17	Step 16
505	60 on first dozen	1	Win	3,593.00	15	Step 17
506	25 on first dozen	22	Loss	3,568.00	16	Step 15
507	40 on first dozen	10	Win	3,648.00	15	Step 16
508	25 on first dozen	7	Win	3,698.00	15	Step 15
509	25 on first dozen	20	Loss	3,673.00	16	Step 15
510	40 on first dozen	20	Loss	3,633.00	17	Step 16
511	60 on first dozen	25	Loss	3,573.00	18	Step 17
512	90 on first dozen	10	Win	3,753.00	8	Step 18
513	10 on first dozen	1	Win	3,773.00	8	Step 8
514	10 on first dozen	10	Win	3,793.00	8	Step 8
515	10 on first dozen	1	Win	3,813.00	8	Step 8

Probability Reality Check

To understand the logic behind my system, I first need to explain what I call the gambling crimes against statistics and probability math that most online “systems” commit. Take the Fibonacci sequence used for dozen bets — the classic 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55… progression. Beautiful in nature, great for sunflowers, terrible for roulette.

The Core Probability Error

A standard dozen bet covers 12 numbers on an American wheel (38 pockets). So the true win probability is:

12/38 = 31.58% win

26/38 = 68.42% loss

This probability never changes, even after 20 losses. The wheel has no memory. If you track every 21st bet after a 20‑loss streak, the win rate still converges to 31.58%. (and Brah I actually have done this)

Compounded Probability vs. Changing Odds

People confuse compounded probability with changing odds. They are not the same.

Each spin still has a 68.42% chance of losing, but the probability of losing multiple times in a row compounds:

2 losses: 46.8%
3 losses: 32.0%
4 losses: 21.9%
5 losses: 15.0%
6 losses: 10.3%
7 losses: 7.0%
8 losses: 4.8%
9 losses: 3.3%

After about seven losses, the absolute drop per step becomes small, but the next spin is still 31.58% to win. Restarting the sequence does not change the odds; it only changes your bankroll exposure. Also, after building many versions of this system, I found something counterintuitive. Stopping at step six and then resetting the sequence consistently performed about three to four percent better than continuing to step seven. Even though reaching step seven is only about a one‑in‑ten event, stacking four or five of those one‑in‑ten chances ends up being stronger than pushing the ladder all the way to step seven.

The Fibonacci Net‑Win Trap

As you climb the Fibonacci ladder, your bet size increases — but your net win target also increases, even though the odds never improve.

Using the first 9 Fibonacci bets (1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34) with a 2:1 dozen payout:

Bet 1: win +2
Bet 2: win +1
Bet 3: win +2
Bet 4: win +2
Bet 5: win +3
Bet 6: win +4
Bet 7: win +6
Bet 8: win +9
Bet 9: win +14

But every one of those bets still wins 31.58% of the time.

Why this is mathematically stupid

The odds never improve. Bet 9 has the same 31.58% win chance as Bet 1.
Risk grows faster than reward. Bet 9 risks 34 units to win 14 net — a terrible ratio.
One failure nukes multiple successes. Losing at Bet 9 costs 54 units; you need many +2 or +3 wins to recover.
Table limits kill the sequence early. Most tables cap dozen bets before 34 units.
Bankroll requirements explode. The sequence demands exponential capital for linear net wins.

Correct Comparison: Even‑Money vs. Dozen Bets

Even‑Money (red/black)

Win: 18/38 = 47.37%
Lose: 20/38 = 52.63%
Payout: 1:1
Progression: Martingale (1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64)

Compounded losses:

4 losses: 7.7%
5 losses: 4.0%
6 losses: 2.1%
7 losses: 1.1%

By the 5th bet, you’ve already lost more than you can realistically win back.

Dozen Bets

Win: 12/38 = 31.58%
Lose: 26/38 = 68.42%
Payout: 2:1

Compounded losses:

6 losses: 10.3%
7 losses: 7.0%
8 losses: 4.8%
9 losses: 3.3%

The Real Trade‑Off

Even‑money bets lose less often per spin.
Dozen bets pay more per win.
The 2:1 payout allows shallower progressions than Martingale.
Fibonacci destroys this advantage by increasing net‑win targets as you climb.

A correct dozen‑based system would:

Keep net win constant across all steps.
Use the 2:1 payout to recover losses efficiently.
Avoid escalating reward faster than risk.
Avoid the gambler’s fallacy baked into Fibonacci.

Bottom Line

Dozen win probability is 31.58%, not 36.84%.
Even‑money loss probability is 52.63%, not 63.16%.
Fibonacci net wins grow from +2 to +14 while win probability stays flat.
Dozen sequences only work if net win is fixed — not escalating.

Also I have a system that wins $100 in sequences of bets 90% of the time so, again, respectfully:

variance can Suck it.

👉 Wolfie Ladder: https://lupopedia.com/wolfie_ladder/